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Once registered, you will be able to post anywhere in the forums, create topics, ask questions, show off your music, and collaborate with other members to create a new song or musical piece.

You will also be able to view post attachments, which are usually songs in progress or completed songs.  And, you'll have access to our TTM Articles section, which contains a variety of articles on software, hardware, mixing, mastering, and many other topics.  The forum Search option will also be available to you once registered.

Two Track Music is a somewhat 'laid back' community.  Just some good musicians and song writers hanging out, and having a good time.  We're not a high pressure or fast paced site, we just enjoy kicking back and making some music, and having fun while we're doing it.

If that sounds like your kind of place, please join us.  We'd love to have you in the mix.  And yes, pun intended... ;)

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Today at 02:03:40 AM
That's what I thought, Neil.  All about presentation.  ;)

I do wish they had some kind of protective screen or mesh over the speakers.  Can't wait to see how they sound...


Today at 01:02:38 AM
.......as long as they look good  :P


Yesterday at 09:17:09 PM
Home again.  Didn't get the network/wi-fi finished at the school, have to go back again Thursday.

Sampson monitors are here, hopefully I can get them set up tomorrow and test them out on a mix I need to do.  They look good...


January 15, 2018, 09:34:48 PM
I can relate, Smurf.  Yesterday I made it 10-12 miles at 20mph before I turned around and came back.  Icy ruts pulling the car all over, and twice pulled me onto the center line with semi's coming the other way.  Scary...


January 15, 2018, 09:25:38 PM
Just had to turn around & come home from my sleep study tonight....super bad roads + ice + nothing but hills, valleys and drop-offs for 18 miles of the trip....no thanks! :P


January 15, 2018, 07:38:17 PM
Sampson monitors are supposed to be here UPS tomorrow sometime.  I have to go do a network job at a school, so I won't get to try them out till Wednesday.  But I have some mixing to do, so I'll let y'all know how they work...


January 15, 2018, 07:36:35 PM
Crazy snow storm today.  Going to have to plow, shovel, and scoop.  And probably again tomorrow...  >:(


January 13, 2018, 10:07:33 PM
I know, right?  I used to climb right in there.  Not anymore.

Two years ago I had to pull the exhaust manifold and some other things just to get to the back 3 plugs on one of the cars just to do a tuneup.


January 13, 2018, 10:04:41 PM
I hear ya Joom...our old 1/2 tons you could climb in beside the engine and almost close the hood,,, now you have to almost remove the motor to change a fan belt lol


January 13, 2018, 09:15:48 PM
I've got a pile of tools and testers that weren't even thought of 50 years ago.  Aside from basic drive train axle stuff, you have to start with an OBD tester just to know what might be going on.

I've always said I'd love to have a 1965 'anything' in good shape to fix up and drive...


January 13, 2018, 09:11:19 PM
Things have definitely changed a lot from back in the day of simple carburetors and distributors with points, Buster.  I could fix most things on the road with a few tools.  Not any more...


January 13, 2018, 08:16:27 PM
You guys are doing well. The 1st car I owned I took out the engine and gearbox, removed all the parts, had the engine o'hauled, put it all back in, re-timed it and drove it away. The new truck, I can't name a single thing under the hood.


January 13, 2018, 05:12:12 PM
And yeah, garage and pole barn, both full of motorcycles and dirt bikes, mowers, and a ton of other crap.  Been promising myself to clean them out for a long time and give myself a work area...


January 13, 2018, 05:10:25 PM
Same here, Red.  Back in the 70's before I got into computers I was a licensed mechanic, and I still refuse to pay somebody else to do what I can do.  Most of the time...


January 13, 2018, 04:36:32 PM
I'm with you Joom. I do all our car maintenance, have a 3 car garage and can't park a single car in it.  :/

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DAWs / Acid is back...
« on: January 08, 2018, 12:20:36 AM »
Hey, after 7 years they finally came out with an update to Sony Acid Pro, my oldest and (at one time) favorite DAW.  Add one more upgrade to the list.

I have DAW's I like better now, but I have to have this one for old times sake...   (-!)

General Discussion / Christmas at TTM
« on: December 12, 2017, 06:53:06 AM »
Sitting here working tonight (yes, it's 4am), and thinking about Christmas coming up.

Then I started remembering some of the old tunes we've done here for Christmas.  So I found a few I happen to have, and created a temporary folder on the site and uploaded them.

Didn't do anything fancy, just put them in the folder so the list could be viewed (and played).  I'll get rid of this thread and that folder after Christmas, but thought this might bring back a few memories for the old timers here, and maybe the newer members would enjoy one or two of them.

This isn't a complete list of all Christmas songs done here over the years, just a few I could find quickly.  I happen to have copies of these because I was involved in most of them.  Just click on the link below to see the list, and you can click on a song title to play it.  If you want to download a song, just right-click on the song name and click "Save Link As".  Hope some of you enjoy listening to these again as much as I did.

We should do one of the 'group' things again sometime.  And Merry Christmas to all...


Lyrics / Because Neil asked for it...
« on: October 03, 2017, 07:45:32 PM »
Well, Neil, turned out to be a busy day, but I finally grabbed a minute for this.  I have no idea where I should have gone from that shoutbox beginning, but this is what my fingers did.  I'm not claiming it's good or usable.  Use it, use parts of it, use it as a starting point, or just pretend you didn't see it...  :-*

Well it’s 2017 and I’m watching the screen
But the news blows me away
Arguing, fighting, talkin’ bout war
And it gets worse every day

I see people protesting
And the cops arresting
Everybody who doesn’t comply
Things have gone from good
To bad to worse
In the twinkling of an eye

Now they say there's no such thing as fake news
And no such thing as lies
That everything now is alternative facts
But it's time you realize

That watching the news
I can only conclude
The world we know
.........is screwed

Left or right it doesn’t really matter
Why can’t we just agree
We should do the right thing
Instead of always getting caught
Between the devil and the deep blue sea

It seems to me that it should be so easy
For us all to just get along
Because in the end, and this is just my opnion
For whatever that might be worth
You and me and everybody else
Are all just citizens
..........of the planet Earth

Member Blogs / What were you doing at the time?
« on: January 15, 2017, 12:49:48 PM »
Well, I just got the bill (actually it's autopay, so I got a receipt) for the 13th year of TTM.  Yesterday was actually the date.

So, I sat here with coffee thinking - 12 years, I wonder what everybody was doing with music recording at that time.

I could still play a little back then, and was busy doing a lot of recording playing to loops/segments/drum tracks/whatever.  Writing songs, and thinking that it would be fun to be back in the garage band days again and have some people to chat with and make some music.  I was working with a couple local people at the time, but that finally ended.

And then I thought - Hey, I'll make a forums based website and see if anybody wants to come and hang out.  First, as usual, I searched the net and found a lot of places already out there related to music.  I thought about just joining one of those, but couldn't find one I really liked and finally just decided to go ahead and build my own.

Somehow Schprocket and Way2 found their way there, and we started having some fun.  Then I saw KAE mentioned somewhere, so I checked out those forums.  That was the first place I'd scouted that had what looked like a really friendly group of people there, so after reading lots of threads I eventually joined there.  I was still enjoying our small crew at TTM, but thought KAE would be fun, too.

But about that time, the KAE forums started having problems with lots of spammers, and nobody really had control of anything.  The forums were operated by the person that made KAE (I believe), and he was off to bigger projects.  Quite a few of the people were complaining about the spammers and other things, and though I didn't want to sound like a spammer myself I finally mentioned that I had a forum they were welcome to hang out in.

I figured I would probably be nailed for trying to steal members, which wasn't the intent and not something I approve of, I was just offering an alternative.  Surprisingly, a couple members came over and registered.  Then a few more.  And then we started getting the occasional cruiser stopping to register.

Over the years, we've had some really nice people hang out here for a while, then eventually move on.  One person that I really liked thought somebody here was making fun of him and left, but I think he might have just taken something the wrong way.  I do miss those people that left over time and never came back, for whatever reason.  All of them offered something good to the community.  The current community here is great, though.

But back to the question.  What were you all doing 12 years ago today in the music field?  How were you recording, were you playing live somewhere, had you been thinking it would be fun to hang out with other musicians, were you already in a musician's forum somewhere else, etc.?

General Discussion / Music on PBS...
« on: November 26, 2016, 09:22:03 PM »
I'm always going to mention this, but then I always forget.  For those of you who can get the PBS tv station, there is almost always something good going on there with music.  Just noticed that tonight is a concert with Willie Nelson, Merle Haggard, and Jim Price.

A few nights ago Arlo Guthrie was doing a concert for the 50th anniversary of "Alice's Restaurant".

Almost every night there's something good on there.  And some nights they have a show called "SoundBreaking", which talks about both current news and history in the creation of music.  Great show.

Here's a list of some of the things they have on nightly.


But if you keep an eye on it, some great concerts occasionally come up from some good old favorites.  Very cool, been watching them for years...

Keyboards / Finally figured out my midi keyboard problem...
« on: November 21, 2016, 10:32:48 PM »
As most of you know, a little over a year ago my all-time favorite keyboard (the Evolution) finally gave up the ghost after 12-13 years of great service.  So, I picked up a little Korg, and though I had occasional issues it kind of worked on and off until a couple months ago, then it died.  While looking around for a higher end replacement that might be as good as the Evolution, I grabbed a cheap little thing (MidiPlus AKM).  But, I've had trouble with it since I got it.  Couldn't get it to work in Reason, or any of the other 11 DAWs I have.

All this just seemed odd, so I started digging into the computer and software side of things.  And last night, I finally figured it out.  Should have dug into it long ago.  Got the MidiPlus working great, but now I'm wondering if the Korg actually went bad or this problem has been here for a long time.  I never throw anything away, so now I have to dig out the Korg from wherever I stuck it.  And if that works now, I have to go through storage rooms and find my Evolution.  I'm assuming that really did die after that many years, but who knows.

Anyway, for any of you that work with midi keyboards that use a USB plug, and you ever have an issue where it just won't work even though the Device Manager says it's working, the problem might be with your ports.

See, Windows only allows so many ports for any particular thing, and it's 10 for a USB midi keyboard.  But Windows has this problem/issue/thing where, if you plug the same unit into more than one USB plug, it creates a new port for each time you do this.  And just going back to the original plug doesn't work, because it creates another new port again.  I knew this, but it never struck me that it was happening to my keyboard until I really dug into it.  My midi ports were maxed.

How to fix it?  If you've ever edited a registry (without crashing your system), then it's an easy fix.  If you've never edited a registry, it might not be something you'd want to try.  So, if you have this problem at some point, and want the info on what to edit, just let me know and I'll post it.

In any case, I'm playing again.  Or will be as soon as I can use my hands again after cutting trees today...  :P

Member Blogs / The life and times...
« on: November 17, 2016, 02:25:54 PM »
I sit here and wonder sometimes why it seems like I haven't had much time for music stuff for a while.  But I don't have to wonder long.

Sunday the wife left for Arizona to help her folks for a couple weeks.  And here's a partial list of things to keep me occupied during her absence.

  • Replace the switch on the washing machine:  Done
  • Replace the sprayer on the kitchen sink:  Done
  • Relocate the generator, build a new platform and cover, rewire:  Done
  • Replace the bathroom light fixtures (walls and ceiling):  Done
  • Clean out garage and rearrange pole barn:  Under way
  • Remove trees blocking WiFi line of sight between houses:  Under way

Just a partial list.  Seems I never post pics, so after I spent my first couple hours cutting trees on Sunday, I took a couple.  Sorry for the bad exposure, but it's been cloudy here and I used a small pocket camera, and I reduced image size for upload.  Two slightly different angles from a distance, and only shows about 2/3 of the trees that need to be cut.  For reference, the smaller pine tree still standing front/center is about 35ft. tall.  I've been working on this project for 2-3 hours every day since Sunday (all I can take these days), and I'm about 1/3 done.

Back in the 60's, I could cut trees all day long.  Doesn't take long to wear me down now.  I'm not moving the trees, just dropping them and moving on.  The smaller ones are fairly easy to cut, but there's a bazillion of them and most are close together.  I've had my cap knocked off quite a few times, and been shoved around a little, but so far nothing serious.  Hoping I can get it done before the snow flies.

And of course I get back to the office here every day and have calls from clients with important problems, like - "My email shortcut disappeared and now I can't get to my email!"

Been like this all summer.  Should be a song in there somewhere.........

Well I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay
I work all night and I cut all a little bit of the day

General Discussion / The seasonal player is up...
« on: November 06, 2016, 11:24:57 AM »
You've probably noticed that I put the Christmas player up a little early this year.  Figured I'd get the season started early.  Player link graphic is at the top under the main menu, of course.

As of now, there are 9 songs in there (the list is scrollable), reaching back as much as 8 years.  If any of our newer members have a song you'd like listed, let me know.  And here at TTM, we respect that not everyone celebrates Christmas, so whatever your holiday of choice might be is fine with us.

It was fun going back over some of the old ones.  And for our newer members, that TTM Christmas song I did was 7-8 years ago, so don't be offended if your location is not mentioned.

And if anyone is interested in who had a part in any of the songs (and can't tell), feel free to ask here in this thread.  I have two in there, and was lucky enough to be involved with a few others.

So, enjoy the holiday, TTM...  (!:)

Lyrics / Fishing song that could get you in trouble...
« on: October 29, 2016, 08:49:07 PM »
Wrote these lyrics 5-6 years ago, never did anything with them.  Never will.  Anybody that wants to be dumb brave enough to make a song out of them, feel free...

Well I loaded up the truck
Got the boat hooked up
And I'm almost ready to play
I gotta stop and buy the bait
Lord I can hardly wait
Cause I'm a goin' fishin' today

Then she said honey can I join ya
I won't be a bother
I just wanna spend some time with you
Well my hand started itchin'
And my eye started twitchin'
And I couldn't think of what to do

So I said let me tell ya honey
You wouldn’t be a bother
But I can’t take you along
Ya see the boat’s got a leak
And there’s bears in the creek
And putting you in danger is wrong

Well she gave me the look
Cause she knew me like a book
And she could see I’s puttin' her on
So I finally gave in
And said honey you win
Get your pole and come along

Well I stopped and got the beer
And put the cooler in the rear
And we headed out for the lake
But she wouldn’t quit her yappin'
I just watched her lips a flappin'
It was more than any man could take

When we got to the water
I was gettin' hot and bothered
Cause she wouldn’t leave me alone
I couldn’t take it any more
I set my beer on the floor
And I told her she should head back home

And she said Honey what’s wrong
I just thought I’d tag along
Just so I could spend some time with you
Well I finally had enough
I didn’t want to get tough
But I had to tell her what to do

So I said....

Hit the road and go back home
Just leave my butt alone
Why can’t ya just let me be
Ya know you won't stop talkin'
And all I hear is squawkin'
So you can't go fishin' with me

Well the second that I said it
I knew that I’d regret it
As she headed off down the road
I didn’t wanna let her go
But ya know I had to show her
That a man likes fishin' alone

Now fellas let me tell ya
Shoulda thought this out better
Cause I’m thinking I’ll be sleepin' outside
So if your wife ever asks
If you can take her fishin'
Say "of course, my adorable bride"

Challenges / October 2016 ODC Challenge - Home
« on: October 08, 2016, 09:13:09 PM »
The challenge this month deals with "Home".  At some point in our lives, all of us end up sitting back and thinking about home.  And it's different for everybody.

Home to you might be where you grew up, or where you raised your family, or just where you spent (or are spending) the best part of your life.  In any case, everyone has a place that says "home" to them more than any other place (and/or time).  And when we think of that place (and/or time), it imparts a feeling like no other.

And I'm not just talking about the place you currently live, though for some it could be.

The rules are simple, write a song about that place (and/or time) in your life.  A song with lyrics would be great, but instrumentals are welcome, as long as it includes at least one line (sung or spoken) that says what home is (or means) to you.

Some would immediately think Country or Easy Listening for this type of song, but it would work just as well for Rock, Reggae, or anything else.

So come on, every one of us has such a place, and has to think about it at least once in a while.  Should be a full turnout.  ;)

Standard ODC rules apply, only new songs, yadda yadda yadda.  Challenge will close at midnight on 10/31/2016, wherever you hang your hat in the world.  Upload entries to SC as usual.

I look forward to this one, and I will get an entry in.  Good luck, one and all...

Collaborations / Just Another Day...
« on: July 23, 2016, 10:22:16 PM »
A month or so ago Dino sent me a "demo" guitar piece, and I fell in love with it.  Wrote a few lines for it that I've been listening to for a while now, and just ended up really liking it.

So, I asked (begged?) Dino yesterday if I could do something with it, even though it was (for him) just a demo piece.  He graciously said yes.

I did re-sing this once after I got the okay (besides the meter I'd originally sent) , but just once.  Standard quick and dirty.  But I thought the musical piece definitely needed to be heard.  Had there been time and opportunity, this may have been the basis for our BOTB.

So, vocal pains and all..............Just Another Day.  Little headphones mix.

(and thanks for the go ahead, Dino)  ;)

Collaborations / Where are you, bigB?
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:07:03 PM »
As usual after unhooking and moving a hot water heater, I was just sitting here with a coffee browsing through more old stuff.

Came across this one, and wondered where bigB might be these days.  I see the last login was a year ago.

bigB did this music for a KAE challenge back in March of 2009, and asked about lyrics.  As usual, I wrote for what the song 'felt' like to me.  And as usual, after writing the lyrics I did a quick/rough meter/example track.

This is that great music track with my rough meter track from way back then.  I never did know if B used it or not.  But this reminded me of him, so I thought I'd post it up and shout out to see if he's lurking somewhere.  If you are, B, log in and say howdy...  ;)

Cheaters / A plethora (bundle) (bunch) (buttload) of old cheaters...
« on: June 16, 2016, 06:23:36 PM »
I've been looking at old stuff lately.  Gazebo mentioned in a post in another thread that he too was browsing through some old nearly forgotten work.

So, after a little thought (very little), I decided it would be good to have some of the old things all in one place.  And since most sites don't allow posting covers, especially cheaters, I decided to put some up here.

This list is only a small percentage of cheaters I've done over the years.  And some were done on a dare or a challenge.  But they were all fun to just click record and run with at the time.  Most of them go back 6-8 years.

Anyway, I got them in one spot...


Cheaters / From the wayback machine...
« on: June 12, 2016, 12:32:42 PM »
Took a break from catching up on things, and was browsing through the old music cupboards.  Came across this unfinished cheater that Way2 and I were going to do back in 2009.

Apparently I had done my part, and had never sent it to W for his part.  Just did that and he sent me back his cut.  Quick and dirty cheater, but something that was right up W and my alley.  Some good old Hank Snow.

Just a fun little thing that took two minutes to do and seven years to finish...  :-[

General Discussion / Another month in the life...
« on: June 09, 2016, 05:36:58 PM »
Sorry about another absence.  Long story.....short version.

Cousin's funeral over a month ago.  Shortly after, two more cousins (husband/wife) two days apart.

Followed soon after by wife's father going into the hospital and a trip downstate to help out.  He's home now.

While still downstate, I got a call that my brother in Missouri who has Alzheimer’s went completely off the deep end, resulting in a trip to Missouri to try to sort things out.  Too long down there, not good, and still in progress.

Just got back to Michigan when I had to be taken in for a hospital stay.  Apparently, in all the commotion I hadn't taken my blood pressure meds for over a month, so I decided to just pass out.  All better now.  At least I'm home, having coffee and smokes, and mostly upright.  People get so uptight when you're talking and just drop.

So, sorry for another leave without notice.  Now to catch up, starting with a few thousand emails.

Oh, and if it looked at any point like I was here but not responding to anything, it was probably because while I was away the wife's main computer crashed and burned, and she used my main system a few times, which automatically loads some pages on startup, making it look like I was around when I wasn't...

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