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Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« on: December 21, 2012, 04:00:16 PM »
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2012, 04:11:00 PM »
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2012, 04:22:38 PM »
The controls we'll be using arrived today. Since these are Humbuckers 500k B pots (linear taper) for this project, for volume, and tone controls. We're not putting this thing on the space shuttle. Haven't decided on what Capacitor we'll use. These pickups are hotter than the single coil soap bars and will probably try a few different ones, to see which one suits it best.
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2012, 04:56:49 PM »
   Still waiting on the second pickup to arrive  :-X , we've opted not to use a pickguard cover so routing has to be clean. We're trying to do this on the cheap so .......... we're screwed. No template  or router bearing.  :o A cover for two Music Man pickups is available from my friends in China for under $10. Too late to add it after the fact lol. Since we're using the same pickup in both positions it wont be quite the same as a Music Man which uses two different size pickups last I looked.
    $19.99 for a set of 4 straight router bits and a Black and Decker can opener for $12.98 okay the can opener has no function here. Total cost of this mod is over $100 with the tools.
    We'll just be slacking the truss rod
and removing the tailpiece/bridge since this is going to take possibly more than a day to do the job, just for extra precaution and wont be detaching the neck. Now it's Miller time.  :P
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 02:10:33 PM »
Okay now that we have all the parts, we will begin to disassemble the guitar, but first we'll measure the stock pickup height. To make sure we get the holes deep enough.
 6.5mm- 7.mm  The new pickups must be at or  below this height.



 I'll try not to cheat you out of a video with me gouging this guitar with the router.  Waiting for the camera girl to get here.
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 05:57:48 PM »
Okay we got er done, the videos will need a bit of a edit , and we'll put em up on the utoob. Now to wire it up. Here's a after picture.
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 06:02:35 PM »
Looks like a nice job....
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 06:22:55 PM »
Thanks WS.  ;D The videos are good  :P we couldn't wait for the camera girl so we used our Jazz camera, surprisingly they came out pretty sharp. 1.3 gigs though so we'll have to squeeze them a bit. 
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2012, 08:18:20 PM »
Man i miss the wood working stuff ... super nice cuts B man from what I can see and the mech pic what program you use for that ? is it an auto cad ?

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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2012, 09:45:18 PM »
Thanks Ags. Yes it  :P smelt like Cherry or Birch when I was routing it.

Get ready for this .................. it works ........... LMAO. Wes got a few pictures of the reassembly, my new soldering iron could have been better tinned. Pretty quiet , but nasty. We'll do a demo recording tomorrow. Making Spaghetti now. Turned out better looking than I expected to be honest.
      Just a PSP drawing no scale, just wanted to show where we cut it. I still managed to get them upside down (supposed to be Two tabs to the G string one to the B , s'not real important though. Once we get it dialed in we wont be moving them.
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2013, 01:22:26 AM »
These are low res and are silent , will try and do a better video of the whole thing soon and upload it from a friends house who has a cable internet connection.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA9WzG2LwPg

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6k2HL_402pA

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psx4Mivpcgo[/youtube][/youtube][/youtube]
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2013, 10:53:44 AM »
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2013, 12:34:58 AM »
We used vacuum line instead of springs on the new bass pickups. (see photo) note tape to hold rubber hose in place. The start of the adventure ....We found the same piece of rubber under the old Soapbars that you found Ags.
   To look at them you would say oh yeah those are humbuckers, but they're not. The 250k pots should have let me know they were single coils. Further reading confirmed it. Good luck finding a 5string bass with a neck like this for under $400. Wes got very lucky to get it for $168. , of course the pickups and pots were crappy. They even threw in a nice Fender gigbag. The output was always weak, and I knew it was bad when a friend brought over his P-Bass clone and it's output was twice that of the  Dean. We had been preamping this thing to the max.....thought lets get another bass oh but Wes had already been to town.... so getting a 4string was out. Nothing under $500 had the action of the Dean we had ..... Hello the scheme to replace the pickups.
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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2013, 05:39:30 AM »
Man jerry has funny basses he has 6 string and some others  good looks but don't know who built them .I don't have anything to compare the rogue to but output seems good through the outer wife will kill me if get a new bass .... I mean like for real hahaha.

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Re: Dean 5_String Bass Music Man Modification
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2013, 11:51:07 AM »
Basses are a different animal than guitars, action is relative to playing style IMHO. It's a one note affair most of the time, playing counter melody. If the one you have doesn't resemble a rocking chair rocker, I'd say it's a keeper. I can't hear much below the the "E" string as far as being in tune. There's no money above the 5th fret. A shredder doth not a bass player maketh. If ya can't play like Chris Squire stay out of the kitchen ........ lol #1 rule Thou shall not piss off the wife.

No offense to the Bassists here at TTM, Bass is a silly boring instrument unless your Jaco Pastorius.
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